Post dllo sgrat sgrat .) ancora lei!! maledetta catena

ragazzi vi riporto una direttiva Puma trovata in altri lidi che ci riguarda purtroppo...in relazioni a casi di F20 rumorose e con catena sostituita verificatisi in UK





PuMA



Consult measure M



No measurement Theme

43863106-09 N47, N47S, N47T, grinding noise in the engine, the timing chain scrapes



Validation date (dd / mm / yy) Current Status Affiliate

Validated 14/12/12 FR, VP



Vehicles involved



Series E Motor Body

E60 E61 E81 E82 E83 N47 N47S N47DKO N47T

E84 E87 E88 E90 E91

E92 E93 F10 F11 F20

F25 F30 F31



Production period (beyond) Comment period Return info (all cases

(Dd / mrn / yy) production until) (dd / mnn / yy) /



Complaint

Engine noise and friction scraping type from 1500 rev / min, perceptible in the cockpit. The noise is noticeable on the gearbox housing or the oil pan.



Cause

Sharp edges of the sprockets or the chain does not move regularly on the slides.



Important measure:

before starting the repair, ensure the availability of essential items!



It is necessary to distinguish between three cases:



case 1:



for motors N47, N47DKO, N47S, production period from 01.03.2007 to 05.01.2009.

In case of customer complaint, replace the following components:



- 11 21 7 803 479 replacement crankshaft with bearing shells.



Note: Use crankshafts produced after 5. 1. 2009!

The production date stamped on the crankshaft sprocket (see Appendix, page 1.)

Meaning of numbers

- The first two digits indicate the production line.

- The six digits indicate the year (two digits), month, and day.

- The last five digits are the serial number of the crankshaft. The crankshaft shown on page 1 of the Annex has been made October 21, 2009.



- 11 41 7 797 896 chain drive of the oil pump.

- 11 31 8 506 652 chain below.

- 13 52 7 797 906 sprocket drive the oil pump.

- 11 27 7 800 523 gear (intermediate gear for balancing shafts).

- 11 27 7 802 575 pinion (drive shaft balancing).

- 11 27 7 802 576 pinion (drive shaft balancing).

- 11 31 8 510 014 upper chain.

- 11 31 7 797 899 guide rail for upper timing chain.

- 13 52 8 573 158 guide rail for timing chain lower

- 13 52 8 573 159 rail for timing chain tensioner below.



Note: the lower chain, use only the rails and tensioners guidageamortis! (See Appendix, page 2)

For greater supply chain, use only the rail without reinforcements! (See Appendix, page 3)



Note: according tune and repair instructions for the idler lesarbres balancing!

If the idler gear and balancer shafts are set incorrectly, the engine can produce a crankshaft with nine bruitsmême, etc.. View manual repair 11 21 500 "replacement of the crankshaft."



Note: On vehicles on which the crankshaft has been replaced under uneréparation previous:

treat these vehicles as described in "case 2".



Case 2:



for motors N47, N47DKO, N47S, N47T period from production of 05.01.2009 - 01.03.2011

In case of customer complaint, replace the following parts:



- 11 31 8 506 652 chain below.

- 13 52 7 797 906 sprocket for driving the oil pump.

- 11 31 8 510 014 upper chain.

- 11 31 7 797 899 guide rail for upper timing chain.

- 13 52 8 573 158 guide rail for lower chain.

- 13 52 8 573 159 rail for timing chain tensioner below.



Note: it is not necessary to loosen the bolt on the idler for the arbresd'équilibrage



Note: the lower chain, use only the rails and tensioners guidageamortis l (see Appendix, page 2)

For greater supply chain, use only the rail without reinforcements! (See Appendix, page 3)



Note: On vehicles having already been under repair track without reinforcements and surlesquels both chains have been replaced: treat these vehicles as indicated inparagraph "Case 3).



Case 3:



For N47T engine part products from 01.03.2011 and engines already repaired with rails deguidage without reinforcements.

In case of customer complaint, replace the following parts:



- 11 31 8 506 652 chain below.

- 13 52 7 797 906 sprocket for driving the oil pump.

- 11 31 8 510 014 upper chain.

- 13 52 8 573 158 guide rail for lower chain.

- 13 52 8 573 159 rail for timing chain tensioner below.

link alla vicenda

http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=45004




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oWrjdxM6eQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player


video del difetto

 

Quando e' stata prodotta la tua caro?

 

Cm se leggi i post del forum inglese ci sono utenti con auto prodotte nel 2013 che hanno lo sfregolio...

 

E comunque mi sa che la t sta per una sigla universale non che ci sia una k una c o altro se non erro

 

[TABLE=class: wikitable]

[TR][TH]Engine[/TH]

[TH]Displacement[/TH]

[TH]Minimum specific fuel consumption(g/kWh)[/TH]

[TH]Compression Ratio[/TH]

[TH]Engine Weight(kg)[/TH]

[TH]Power[/TH]

[TH]Torque[/TH]

[TH]Redline(rpm)[/TH]

[TH]Injection Pressure(bar)[/TH]

[TH]Relative Boost(bar)[/TH]

[TH]MEP(bar)[/TH]

[TH]Maximum combustion chamber pressure(bar)[/TH]

[TH]Introduced in[/TH]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N47D16[/TD]

[TD]1.6 L (1598 cc/98 in³)[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]16.5:1[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]70 kW (95 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]235 N m (173 lb ft) @ 1500 - 2750 rpm[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]2013[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]85 kW (116 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]260 N m (192 lb ft) @ 1750 - 2500 rpm[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]2012[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N47D20[/TD]

[TD]2.0 L (1995 cc/121 in³)[/TD]

[TD]198[/TD]

[TD]16.5:1[/TD]

[TD]149[/TD]

[TD]85 kW (116 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]260 N m (192 lb ft) @ 1750 rpm[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]09/2009[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]105 kW (143 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]300 N m (221 lb ft) @ 1750-3000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]5000[/TD]

[TD]1600[/TD]

[TD]1.5[/TD]

[TD]19[/TD]

[TD]170[/TD]

[TD]03/2007[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]120 kW (163 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]340 N m (265 lb ft) @ 2000 rpm[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]1800[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]09/2009[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]130 kW (177 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]350 N·m (258 lb ft) @ 1750-3000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]5000[/TD]

[TD]1.5[/TD]

[TD]22[/TD]

[TD]180[/TD]

[TD]03/2007[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]135 kW (184 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]380 N·m (280 lb ft) @ 1750-2750 rpm[/TD]

[TD]5000[/TD]

[TD]1.5[/TD]

[TD]22[/TD]

[TD]180[/TD]

[TD]03/2010[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]16.1:1[/TD]

[TD]161[/TD]

[TD]150 kW (204 bhp) @ 4400 rpm[/TD]

[TD]400 Nm (295 lb ft) @ 2000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]5200[/TD]

[TD]2000[/TD]

[TD]2.0[/TD]

[TD]25.3[/TD]

[TD]200[/TD]

[TD]10/2007[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]16.5:1[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]160 kW (218 bhp) @ 4400 rpm[/TD]

[TD]450 Nm (332 lb ft) @ 1500-2500 rpm[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]2011

[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

 

[TABLE=class: wikitable]

[TR][TH]Engine[/TH]

[TH]Displacement[/TH]

[TH]Minimum specific fuel consumption(g/kWh)[/TH]

[TH]Compression Ratio[/TH]

[TH]Engine Weight(kg)[/TH]

[TH]Power[/TH]

[TH]Torque[/TH]

[TH]Redline(rpm)[/TH]

[TH]Injection Pressure(bar)[/TH]

[TH]Relative Boost(bar)[/TH]

[TH]MEP(bar)[/TH]

[TH]Maximum combustion chamber pressure(bar)[/TH]

[TH]Introduced in[/TH]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N47D16[/TD]

[TD]1.6 L (1598 cc/98 in³)[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]16.5:1[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]70 kW (95 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]235 N m (173 lb ft) @ 1500 - 2750 rpm[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]2013[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]85 kW (116 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]260 N m (192 lb ft) @ 1750 - 2500 rpm[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]2012[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N47D20[/TD]

[TD]2.0 L (1995 cc/121 in³)[/TD]

[TD]198[/TD]

[TD]16.5:1[/TD]

[TD]149[/TD]

[TD]85 kW (116 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]260 N m (192 lb ft) @ 1750 rpm[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]09/2009[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]105 kW (143 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]300 N m (221 lb ft) @ 1750-3000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]5000[/TD]

[TD]1600[/TD]

[TD]1.5[/TD]

[TD]19[/TD]

[TD]170[/TD]

[TD]03/2007[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]120 kW (163 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]340 N m (265 lb ft) @ 2000 rpm[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]1800[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]09/2009[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]130 kW (177 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]350 N·m (258 lb ft) @ 1750-3000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]5000[/TD]

[TD]1.5[/TD]

[TD]22[/TD]

[TD]180[/TD]

[TD]03/2007[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]135 kW (184 bhp) @ 4000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]380 N·m (280 lb ft) @ 1750-2750 rpm[/TD]

[TD]5000[/TD]

[TD]1.5[/TD]

[TD]22[/TD]

[TD]180[/TD]

[TD]03/2010[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]16.1:1[/TD]

[TD]161[/TD]

[TD]150 kW (204 bhp) @ 4400 rpm[/TD]

[TD]400 Nm (295 lb ft) @ 2000 rpm[/TD]

[TD]5200[/TD]

[TD]2000[/TD]

[TD]2.0[/TD]

[TD]25.3[/TD]

[TD]200[/TD]

[TD]10/2007[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]16.5:1[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]160 kW (218 bhp) @ 4400 rpm[/TD]

[TD]450 Nm (332 lb ft) @ 1500-2500 rpm[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]2011

[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

 

è una direttiva che viene emanata in caso di interventi urgenti da BMW in questo caso riguarda ancora il nostro motore n47

 

Ma che palle ragazzi mamma mia...la mia prodotta 19.11.2011 ma ad ora tutto il 32000 km...

 

Car ma in conce non ti sei incazzato a dovere? Possibile che questa maledizione continui?

 

Ma quindi hai già fatto il lavoro?

 

Ma perche non te lo fanno? Io ho chiamato BMW Italia e gli ho detto che la mia è import e che quindi senza best 4 e s caso mai dovesse esserci il problema nonnviglio metterci soldi...mi hanno risposto che se dovesse capitare si valuterà un accordo... Il che mi sa di ammissione del difetto che purtroppo permane ancora

 

Ha non farti fregare da questi coglioni ...io siero di non avere il problema senno sino cazzi in concessionaria heheheh...ma gli hai chiesto come mai ancora con sto problema?

 

Ahahahhah ridicoli